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what do you think of weight-relieved Les Pauls

Shelkonnery

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Let's not forget PRS daily production is a fraction of Gibson's. They will always have superior QC.
It seems Gibson has been trying to catch up with a never ending demand the past couple of years.

It's funny, many people claim how much quality has improved under this new/current management. Some go as far as to say we're witnessing a new golden era of Gibson.
Heard the exact same thing in late 80s/early 90s Henry J era. So it's either the same marketing team or we're too prone to believing what suits us best.
 

El Gringo

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Let's not forget PRS daily production is a fraction of Gibson's. They will always have superior QC.
It seems Gibson has been trying to catch up with a never ending demand the past couple of years.

It's funny, many people claim how much quality has improved under this new/current management. Some go as far as to say we're witnessing a new golden era of Gibson.
Heard the exact same thing in late 80s/early 90s Henry J era. So it's either the same marketing team or we're too prone to believing what suits us best.
Proof as they say is in the pudding . Try a Gibson USA , or a Gibson Custom Shop from 2018 forward and then you will know this is no joke .
 

Huc

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Every guitar is different. It's not the weight but how all the components come together. Wood density, wood grade, electronic components and player skill all effect how any guitar will sound. Just my rusty 2 cents.
 

ADP

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I say the lighter the better. There were a handful of weight relieved Les Paul's in the 50's and some full solid slabs can equal around 7lbs if you're lucky enough to find one. My Clapton LP weighs 8lbs even and is not weight relieved - it's as best as I can ask for. My back and I are very grateful for every ounce we can save!

Most of my Les Paul's tend to weigh 9lbs 2oz for whatever reason. But I would love to one day find one that weighs 6lbs. That's the dream.
 

Redhod

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I'm suddenly interested in the ES-Les Paul they made a few years ago. I'll never part with my present LP but suddenly these shoulders can't go too long with that 10-pounder.
@mdubya reports above that his weighs 6 pounds. Sounds inviting.

I played the ES-Les Paul when they brought it out and it seemed interesting. But it was in a music store so I couldn't work it out.

Anybody have a comment on that model?
 

mdubya

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I'm suddenly interested in the ES-Les Paul they made a few years ago. I'll never part with my present LP but suddenly these shoulders can't go too long with that 10-pounder.
@mdubya reports above that his weighs 6 pounds. Sounds inviting.

I played the ES-Les Paul when they brought it out and it seemed interesting. But it was in a music store so I couldn't work it out.

Anybody have a comment on that model?

Brian at Musician's Friend did some fairly awesome demos with the ES LP.

Greg Koch did quite a few with Wildwood, too.




 

jb_abides

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Some ES-Pauls weigh in at 3 pounds. Mine's a just a tad over 4.

ES-Paul will be tonally more related to the ES than the LP, it's essentially an ES-339 [which they still make] in LP shape with MHS pickups and a mahogany center block.

Neck is the Rounded-C. Mine has some flatness, akin to a Slight-D. And the rolled binding was very welcome!

Mitch demo'd a pretty fair overview of the tones. Not sure why he misspeaks and says 'mahogany' ... they were all ES-maple/poplar/maple laminate sandwiches AFAIK... perhaps confusing 'back' with 'block... or is it me?

 
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bern1

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How is the balance on these guitars. Not too headstock heavy? Do you have to hold the neck up with your left hand?
 

Angeldeville

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if my Lester Paul weren’t weight relieved, there would be no way I would own it..

I think mine just has some holes drilled, not sure, never took it apart.

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mdubya

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How is the balance on these guitars. Not too headstock heavy? Do you have to hold the neck up with your left hand?

I only have the one guitar, but I do not need to hold the headstock up. It seems to balance out dead level. I have 3 other LPs to compare. I also have a couple of SGs and Firebirds that may cloud my judgement. None of those are overly neck heavy either. I did have a Firbird that was very neck heavy, so I am not unfamiliar with the sensation.
 
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