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1960 Burst

Frutiger

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Absolutely! A guy I know that knows more about this than anyone (a well-known r*pl*ca builder) says that back in the day, the rosewood boards were a lot lighter than you see today. He says that just exposure to sweat, grime, lights, linseed oil, even just air and other stuff in the environment is what makes rosewood turn so dark over time. This one is proof - looks to be case kept, virtually unplayed, and the board is fairly light vs other old LPs I've seen.

Here's my 1952 ES175 to show how light some boards are. It might not be clearly apparent in the pic but it's board is much lighter than the other guitars I have, even recent ones.

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Rev.WillieVK

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Frutiger - I've seen several '52s and '53s with those very light fingerboards - the one on my '53 SJ looks just like your '52 ES-175 board.

:salude
 

BobV

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You know how the Antique Roadshow guys say that toys that are still in the box are more desirable to collectors? There's something sad about an antique toy that nobody played with. I get the same feeling here. This thing probably never saw the light of day - the gold paint behind the knobs isn't even dull. Doesn't look like the strap has ever been creased to get it over the strap buttons. "Uncirculated"? that's an understatement.
 

Greco

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You know how the Antique Roadshow guys say that toys that are still in the box are more desirable to collectors? There's something sad about an antique toy that nobody played with. I get the same feeling here. This thing probably never saw the light of day - the gold paint behind the knobs isn't even dull. Doesn't look like the strap has ever been creased to get it over the strap buttons. "Uncirculated"? that's an understatement.


I have to disagree. I wouldn't be sad to own this! Just think of it as lying in wait all these years for the right owner and just think, In 50 years time this burst may be blooming from careful playing while others are turning to dust.

Anyway, you can see that htere is arm wear fade of the red. I think it's been played, but more likely by the original owner in a bedroom than Slash at Wembley.
 
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I think it's a wonderful looking guitar. It's a non sequitor to suggest that because it hasn't be played it isn't a great player. I'd love to own it. I wonder how much it's up for.........

It's interesting that there a quite a few very high quality 'bursts showing up. Didn't somebody say that when they did, the prices would be falling.......:ganz
 

MikeSlub

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Absolutely! A guy I know that knows more about this than anyone (a well-known r*pl*ca builder) says that back in the day, the rosewood boards were a lot lighter than you see today. He says that just exposure to sweat, grime, lights, linseed oil, even just air and other stuff in the environment is what makes rosewood turn so dark over time. This one is proof - looks to be case kept, virtually unplayed, and the board is fairly light vs other old LPs I've seen.

While it is true that there are some lighter boards, the majority of my vintage Gibsons have boards on the darker side. :hank
 

bigworm04

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I wish Rumpelstiltskin owned that. I would have no problem giving up my first-born for that burst.
 

Mathijs

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That's so clean it could pass for a pre-2009 historic at first glance.
Great looking specimen! I wonder if its that bright in person and how close that color is to brand new '59's from a few months before.

I actually wonder if I put my 04 R9 next to it people would see the difference.

Mathijs
 

60pinstripe

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What I mean, and I thought I made clear, is that lighter boards grow darker over time, and that is why today so many boards look dark. I have no doubt that yours are on the darker side today. Heck, mine look black today. But what I'm talking about is how they looked the day they were made. This '60 is about as NOS as they come, and gives a good peek into how some of the boards might have looked back in the day.

BS
 
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