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Kirk H Greeny USA

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pqs

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I get it...I wasn't calling you out or anything...
It just seems like Bernie Marsden always pops up in conversations about 'bursts.
It's how I heard of him in the first place.
I wonder if anybody would know who he is if he played a '72 Deluxe.
No worries. I think perhaps it’s once you start looking into vintage LPs, his always comes up. The name beast of his LP came about because apparently it has a very particular bark and amazing tone. It’s not so much Bernie Marsden himself, but his actual LP. No diss on Marsden, just that in the gran scheme of things there are bigger LP players than him, imo.
 

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Bernie's a great player, worthy of his place amongst the 'Burst glitterati, not more or less than any other player.

Fond of this ...


Such a fun album with some really amazing features guests. He seems like a very chill and charismatic guitarist in every interview I’ve seen with him.
 

MotorcityRocker

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I just got today from GC the Greeny Standard. It has a beautiful flame top, dark rosewood fretboard, and weights in at 8.6lbs. Also came with some nice case candy. To me it was worth the money I spent getting this guitar, since I don't have $20,000 laying around for a guitar that won't make me play any better than the standard edition. I haven't seen anywhere on how many of these guitars are being produced. The website dealers that had advertised that they had these guitars in stock, seem to have all been sold. This guitar must be the must have at this time. I still think it is a cool guitar, even though I buy mostly custom shop ones. Thanks Gibson for making great guitars!:)
 

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I haven't seen anywhere on how many of these guitars are being produced.

I don't believe the USA Standard Greeny is a limited edition, it's an normal Artist guitar.

That typically means Gibson will produce runs in whatever numbers they allocate within the factory production process until there's an agreement to stop producing them. That agreement might come about because the sales numbers dwindle, or the Artist's deal with Gibson changes or ends, etc.

Gibson is looking for the next Slash, of course, to push sales. Not sure if this is it, but I think it will do reasonably well for this to remain in production over the span of a few years.

Congrats on getting yours... Pics we need pics!
 

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I think I’ve seen this movie before. Gibson announces a new USA model, people ridicule it, then when people start playing said guitars people start realizing how amazing they are.

When the Slash standards came out was like that. The general verdict goes from overpriced to awesome guitars once people start playing them. Same goes for the Standard Faded.

I conjecture something similar will happen to this new Greenie Standard. Stories like the one by @MotorcityRocker start popping up.
 

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yes we would, he wrote Here I go again by whitesnake amongst others (6 million radio plays alone in the US) and is at least in Europe quite famous for having played in Whitesnake
 

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Gibson is a for profit business and as such, will produce whatever they feel will generate said profit.

My personal opinion is that this won't have an impact on the value of any of the previously released versions. Those who would buy them at a price still would anyway. As @pqs typed, "different target markets", which companies need to expand or guess what happens?
 

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If someone wants to spend $500 or $50,000, it makes sense for Gibson to offer them a product.

Fleetwood Mac was way better with Lindsey Buckingham than with Peter Green, who, probably twenty years ago, most of his biggest fans had never even heard of. The internet is a funny thing, and it's interesting for somebody my age (mid-40s) to see the 'enlightened tastes' of my peers as the internet has dictated what's good and bad.

Peter Green was a great guitar player. Kirk Hammett is a great guitar player. I would rather listen to Lindsey Buckingham, and if I were so inclined, I could probably buy a 1974 Les Paul Custom in white for a lot less than $50,000. I like great albums and great songs.

I don't care about long guitar solos, no matter who plays them. I don't like songs that are just a reason to play a solo. This is why I would rather listen to Rumors than the people who are "Saving teh Blooze," or "Most Authentic Roots player," or "Unknown Legend of the Last Century." It doesn't intertest me.

I worked with Fleetwood Mac a few years ago, and Mike Campbell was playing guitar. He's a great player, but I thought they were lacking with him. I worked with Stevie Nicks last year, and Waddy Watchel made me forget who Lindsey Buckingham was for about 8 hours. I almost bought a used WW model, but it sold before I decided. It's probably for the best. He played an older Les Paul that had been repainted, which sounded pretty good to me.

Someday, maybe when Lindsey dies, they'll make a tribute model to him, and the internet will go on and on about how amazing he was like they do with Karen Carpenter, Brian Wilson, and all the other people that were always great but now are 'forum great.'

I did some work with Metallica last year and posted some pictures here. Greeny is running through a computer. It was cool to see it in person, but it didn't mean anything to me. Its neat KH is playing it live, although maybe he's playing the copy now. Who knows.

Gibson will probably make an Epiphone version within the next year or two, which is a good idea. The specs on the USA model aren't that clear to me. Without the aging it doesn't look like the old one, but I'm sure it has some case candy and things I don't know about.

I'm all for it if it makes people happy to own it.
 
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If someone wants to spend $500 or $50,000, it makes sense for Gibson to offer them a product.

Fleetwood Mac was way better with Lindsey Buckingham than with Peter Green, who, probably twenty years ago, most of his biggest fans had never even heard of. The internet is a funny thing, and it's interesting for somebody my age (mid-40s) to see the 'enlightened tastes' of my peers as the internet has dictated what's good and bad.

Peter Green was a great guitar player. Kirk Hammett is a great guitar player. I would rather listen to Lindsey Buckingham, and if I were so inclined, I could probably buy a 1974 Les Paul Custom in white for a lot less than $50,000. I like great albums and great songs.

I don't care about long guitar solos, no matter who plays them. I don't like songs that are just a reason to play a solo. This is why I would rather listen to Rumors than the people who are "Saving teh Blooze," or "Most Authentic Roots player," or "Unknown Legend of the Last Century." It doesn't intertest me.

I worked with Fleetwood Mac a few years ago, and Mike Campbell was playing guitar. He's a great player, but I thought they were lacking with him. I worked with Stevie Nicks last year, and Waddy Watchel made me forget who Lindsey Buckingham was for about 8 hours. I almost bought a used WW model, but it sold before I decided. It's probably for the best. He played an older Les Paul that had been repainted, which sounded pretty good to me.

Someday, maybe when Lindsey dies, they'll make a tribute model to him, and the internet will go on and on about how amazing he was like they do with Karen Carpenter, Brian Wilson, and all the other people that were always great but now are 'forum great.'

I did some work with Metallica last year and posted some pictures here. Greeny is running through a computer. It was cool to see it in person, but it didn't mean anything to me. Its neat KH is playing it live, although maybe he's playing the copy now. Who knows.

Gibson will probably make an Epiphone version within the next year or two, which is a good idea. The specs on the USA model aren't that clear to me. Without the aging it doesn't look like the old one, but I'm sure it has some case candy and things I don't know about.

I'm all for it if it makes people happy to own it.
Peter Green blows Lindsey out the water ? and Green had silence in his playing which equates to bluesy and knowing when and where to install it to make it phenomenal. Yes most ppl when hearing FM is with the women and buckingham. But original FM is 1000x better. Though very short lived due to LSD destruction of both Danny K and PG

I own an original 74 white non anniv inlay guitar. I was offered $5k for it pre Covid and turned it down. Yet Gibson custom made one for $8k ?. It’s not nearly as good as mine.
 

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Peter Green blows Lindsey out the water ? and Green had silence in his playing which equates to bluesy and knowing when and where to install it to make it phenomenal. Yes most ppl when hearing FM is with the women and buckingham. But original FM is 1000x better. Though very short lived due to LSD destruction of both Danny K and PG

I own an original 74 white non anniv inlay guitar. I was offered $5k for it pre Covid and turned it down. Yet Gibson custom made one for $8k ?. It’s not nearly as good as mine.
Peter Green blows Lindsey out the water ? and Green had silence in his playing which equates to bluesy and knowing when and where to install it to make it phenomenal. Yes most ppl when hearing FM is with the women and buckingham. But original FM is 1000x better. Though very short lived due to LSD destruction of both Danny K and PG

I own an original 74 white non anniv inlay guitar. I was offered $5k for it pre Covid and turned it down. Yet Gibson custom made one for $8k ?. It’s not nearly as good as mine.
I can see your point, but I think you miss mine. I’m not really interested in blowing players out of the water. Would EVH or SRV have improved The Beatles because they could ‘blow George Harrison out of the water? Some people may think so. I’m more into songs than flash.

Like I said, Peter Green was a great player. To me, FM made more songs and records that I enjoy with Lindsey Buckingham, who I think is a great player as well.

No right or wrong answer really, just opinions.

It’s odd to me how music is viewed like sports to so many. Does Renoir blow away Michalangelo? Can you like them and still like Warhol?
 
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I can see your point, but I think you miss mine. I’m not really interested in blowing players out of the water. Would EVH or SRV have improved The Beatles because they could ‘blow George Harrison out of the water? Some people may think so. I’m more into songs than flash.

Like I said, Peter Green was a great player. To me, FM made more songs and records that I enjoy with Lindsey Buckingham, who I think is a great player as well.

No right or wrong answer really, just opinions.

It’s odd to me how music is viewed like sports to so many. Does Renoir blow away Michalangelo? Can you like them and still like Warhol?
Well we’re not talking about different players joining other bands here. We’re talking Peter Green who formed Fleetwood Mac and his music was MUCH better. However it changed with fallout of Green when Stevie joined. Kinda like Barrett went ape shit with Pink Floyd? No one really notices Pink Floyd Barrett like shine on you crazy diamond…. Sure FM turned into a supergroup with the women. However had LSD not affect PG and DK’s lives I think they’d have done really well. Oh well is a phenomenal song don’t you agree?
 

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Well we’re not talking about different players joining other bands here. We’re talking Peter Green who formed Fleetwood Mac and his music was MUCH better. However it changed with fallout of Green when Stevie joined. Kinda like Barrett went ape shit with Pink Floyd? No one really notices Pink Floyd Barrett like shine on you crazy diamond…. Sure FM turned into a supergroup with the women. However had LSD not affect PG and DK’s lives I think they’d have done really well. Oh well is a phenomenal song don’t you agree?
Yeah, just different opinions. Peter Green was a great player. I would rather listen to the non-Peter Green FM. Not that I never listen to that era or that I listen to Rumors all the time. Given the choice between one or the other it would be the LB era every time.
 
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Yeah, just different opinions. Peter Green was a great player. I would rather listen to the non-Peter Green FM. Not that I never listen to that era or that I listen to Rumors all the time. Given the choice between one or the other it would be the LB era every time.

Yea different era. Depends on your age I guess? If you grew up listening to that or whatever you enjoy. I’ve always enjoyed 70s rock and then of course and most it being bluesy it fall in line more with what I enjoy
 

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100%. I dislike any modern blues music myself. I tend to like r&b music and songs with great lyrics vs. songs with great guitar playing. I have exceptions, but generally, I don't like the extended type of song unless it's a Bob Dylan song or something with great lyrics.
 
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100%. I dislike any modern blues music myself. I tend to like r&b music and songs with great lyrics vs. songs with great guitar playing. I have exceptions, but generally, I don't like the extended type of song unless it's a Bob Dylan song or something with great lyrics.
Oh you like pop music. Wrong forum
 
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