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NGD…1967 SG JR/SPECIAL

brentrocks

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I picked this up locally off of a Facebook marketplace ad, in southwest Michigan on Saturday.

When I first saw the pictures, I realize that it probably had been modded at some point in time. I think it started its life as a junior.

The only history that the seller could provide was that it was originally Polaris white, and that the original owner stripped the finish off at some point in time and had someone apply a clearcoat on it. He did not have any history on when the middle pick up in the neck pick up were added or who did the work.

The control cavity shows 4 1967 potentiometers. I first thought that the guitar was a 1967, but now after talking to a few people, I’m thinking it could possibly be a 1966, and that maybe the pick ups were added in 1967 and that’s when the new potentiometers were added as well.

The middle and neck pick up routes are extremely clean and very professionally done! My theory is that the guitar was taken back to Gibson and the work on the pick ups in the electronics were done at Gibson. But that’s just my opinion.

The frets are pretty much gone. I am going to have it re-fretted and a new bone nut made here in the next couple weeks.

It has the narrow nut. The neck is a medium D shape. .840/.990. It sets up and plays like a dream!

This guitar has incredible tone! What you would expect from a Vintage Junior/Special!

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Tollywood

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I wonder what that engraved number means? It’s not a social security number and it’s not a phone number.

Police departments used to offer engraving for items. There must have been some type of government grant that sent police departments vibrating engraving pens. When I first got on the job in 1991 we offered that service to people. We didn’t use a letter but maybe that T was the first initial of whatever police department did the engraving? The funny thing is that the guitar already has a serial number of its own, and that plastic cover can be removed and discarded...so it’s useless.

I have a 1981 Les Paul. Someone engraved a number onto the rear of the headstock, the bridge and the plastic chainsaw case.
 

jb_abides

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Nice wood grain on that, and just noticing the chevon. Again, what a cool find... enjoy in good health!
 

VamboRool

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Since it has the small guard I would think that it was earlier than 67. The work done certainly looks professional. The engraved number may be a driver's license number. The Michigan DMV maybe able to look that up for you. I'd like to see it redone back in Polaris White with new tuners and a vibrato put back on. Let us know if you do have it refinished.
 

brentrocks

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Since it has the small guard I would think that it was earlier than 67. The work done certainly looks professional. The engraved number may be a driver's license number. The Michigan DMV maybe able to look that up for you. I'd like to see it redone back in Polaris White with new tuners and a vibrato put back on. Let us know if you do have it refinished.
Thanks bro. I’m definitely having it re fretted. Depends on the price of the refin.
 

brentrocks

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I wonder what that engraved number means? It’s not a social security number and it’s not a phone number.

Police departments used to offer engraving for items. There must have been some type of government grant that sent police departments vibrating engraving pens. When I first got on the job in 1991 we offered that service to people. We didn’t use a letter but maybe that T was the first initial of whatever police department did the engraving? The funny thing is that the guitar already has a serial number of its own, and that plastic cover can be removed and discarded...so it’s useless.

I have a 1981 Les Paul. Someone engraved a number onto the rear of the headstock, the bridge and the plastic chainsaw case.
I think it’s a Michigan drivers license number
 

Tollywood

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I think it’s a Michigan drivers license number
Ohhhh, that makes sense.

When I was seventeen I carved my social security number on the inside lip of the tremolo springs cavity on my brand new 1987 Charvel. The plastic cover hides it. I recently pulled that guitar out of a closet where it’s been in it’s case for decades. Time to resurrect it.
 

Brent13

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I think it’s a Michigan drivers license number
When I lived in California they advised people to engrave their Drivers License Number into valuable items in case they were stolen. I sold a couple of guitars (a '80s blue Fender American Standard Strat and an 80s Cherry Sunburst Les Paul Standard) in case anybody got them wonders why they have N2112700 engraved in the cavities ;-)
 

Grog

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I wonder what that engraved number means? It’s not a social security number and it’s not a phone number.

Police departments used to offer engraving for items. There must have been some type of government grant that sent police departments vibrating engraving pens. When I first got on the job in 1991 we offered that service to people. We didn’t use a letter but maybe that T was the first initial of whatever police department did the engraving? The funny thing is that the guitar already has a serial number of its own, and that plastic cover can be removed and discarded...so it’s useless.

I have a 1981 Les Paul. Someone engraved a number onto the rear of the headstock, the bridge and the plastic chainsaw case.
Here we had a program called “Operation Identification“. I engraved my two guitars at the time under the pick guards. I bought a ‘64 SG Jr at one time that had it chewed into the back of the headstock. Reminding us that at one time, these were just tools.
 
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