That's a really good question and the answer is I don't know. But now you bring it up I need to find out.
Florian has actually gone away this Weekend and he's not contactable so I'll have to wait for Monday to ask.
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Florian has actually gone away this Weekend and he's not contactable so I'll have to wait for Monday to ask.
Thinking about it, if I had to guess I'd say its probably going to be filled in. I think your right Subliminal, I wouldn't imagine he would go to all the trouble of removing the logo if the veneer was going to be stripped back. Not sure....
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Hey Gary, it's not about needing reassurance. My mind was made up long ago. I was just really interested in everyone's opinion because as far as I know the thinking behind the all Gold finish was to market the guitar as like the best of the best, it's all Gold!!!
And as far as I know there were more guitars finished with the lighter coloured back. But as we have established here the majority of us seem to favour the Dark Back.
I wonder, have tastes changed over the years? Or was the Datk Back as popular back then as it seems to be now. If so that's a huge marketing blunder. I just found it interesting, thats all.
This is how I'd like it, it's darker than what most seem to prefer but I like it. I think it has loads of character and would go with the Gold Top nicely. Definitely still want it transparent so you can see all the grain and I'd probably have to get some new black control caverty covers.
1956 Gibson Les Paul Goldtop "Darkback" - GuitarPoint
1956 Gibson Les Paul Goldtop "Darkback" - incl. orig. brown Lifton case 1956 Gibson Les Paul Goldtop in excellent condition and all original except for a professional refret. Rare "dark back" version, where the backside has been painted in a darker see-thru brown mahogany finish, dark-back...guitarpoint.de
My understanding was that gold back's were gold because of some minor imperfections in the wood? Maybe a knot or something. Funnily enough my 52 conversion was an all gold (gold finish in the back cavity) but is now a darkback. Theirs a few small knots on mine which would back up the theory.
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No, but I don't mind sharing.
All the pricing is on his web site jaegerguitars.com and it's broken down depending on what work you wish to have done. I believe what I'm having done here is the full package with the exception that I didn't want heavy relicing just light aging.
So I put down €1000 to secure my place on the waiting list and that was deducted from the final bill that came to €6200
I then opted for the logo work wich comes in at €400. Although I was very lucky, Florian very kindly did me a bit of a deal on that. He knew how much I wanted it done and that I'm a bit short on funds at the moment. It probably helped that he'd just done the Top Carve and was very happy with it and in a very good mood. (Cheers Florian).
the 6400 Euro plus the 400 Euro is 6600 Euro.
At current conversion rate that is about $7,146 USD.
What did the R6 cost?
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1955 All Gold. Best of the best in my opinion.
Interesting, maybe that's all there is to it then.
I still find it interesting that it seems most guys around here at least favour the Dark Back and yet they made fewer of them.
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I think is was about £4800 and probably around £200 for shipping from the US.
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So, I added up the 6,600 Euro along with the ~5,000 Euro, which at current conversion rate is about $12,553 USD. 
I really hope when you get the R6 back that it has not a single dead spot
I really hope when you get the R6 back that it has not a single dead spot
Yeah I know what your saying, I mean I've stuck my neck out and taken a big, big chance. Believe me I went over and over this In my head before I made the decision to commit to this solution.
I could have just bought a new guitar and my Wife even said that's what I should do.
Theres no way I could sell it to someone knowing what I know about it, I just couldn't do it and feel O.K and they would find out soon enough which would only end in unpleasantness. I'm not cool with that.
Then the guitar would only sit in the case un-played and that would be such a waste.
I mean when I tell you it had dead spots it ranged from being not so great but still playable when amplified to being absolutely dead as in no sound what so ever. So theres no way you could gig it like that.
I feel 99.9% sure this will be successful but with all things in life there are no guarantees so yes, it's a big risk. I accept that.
Either way I've had a great experience and really enjoyed this thread and it's not over yet. Some of you guys are so knowledgeable and have taken your pursuit of tone to a completely different level, the amount of knowledge is incredible and I've learnt so much it's been great.
Out of all the musical equipment financial outlay I've committed to in my life this is by far the least regretful decision I've ever made.
"The Argonaut " will prevail.....
I could have just bought a new guitar and my Wife even said that's what I should do.
Theres no way I could sell it to someone knowing what I know about it, I just couldn't do it and feel O.K and they would find out soon enough which would only end in unpleasantness. I'm not cool with that.
Then the guitar would only sit in the case un-played and that would be such a waste.
I mean when I tell you it had dead spots it ranged from being not so great but still playable when amplified to being absolutely dead as in no sound what so ever. So theres no way you could gig it like that.
I feel 99.9% sure this will be successful but with all things in life there are no guarantees so yes, it's a big risk. I accept that.
Either way I've had a great experience and really enjoyed this thread and it's not over yet. Some of you guys are so knowledgeable and have taken your pursuit of tone to a completely different level, the amount of knowledge is incredible and I've learnt so much it's been great.
Out of all the musical equipment financial outlay I've committed to in my life this is by far the least regretful decision I've ever made.
"The Argonaut " will prevail.....
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What a time to be alive.
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At a certain point, have you considered buying an actual 1956 Les Paul? Call me old fashioned...
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I've learned from this thread that I should be selling guitars to people overseas.
Ain't that the truth....
I get what your saying and I know it must look like insanity from a certain perspective. But I see this as my only way out. I'm fairly confident this will achieve the intended goal and I don't regret it one bit. The experience working with Florian has been awesome.
I think the real issue and criticism should be aimed at the guitar shop in Seattle that sold me the guitar in the first place. They should have sent it back to Gibson and never sold it to anyone. A guitar at that price with this problem is quite frankly a joke. And from the way it was set up when they sent it to me they knew full well it was a dog.
Not being provocative but out of interest what would you have done? Because I've gone round and round in circles second guessing every option and outcome trying to arrive at the right decision. I feel I've made the right choice which at the end of the day is all that count's. But I'm interested, what would you have done?
I think the real issue and criticism should be aimed at the guitar shop in Seattle that sold me the guitar in the first place. They should have sent it back to Gibson and never sold it to anyone. A guitar at that price with this problem is quite frankly a joke. And from the way it was set up when they sent it to me they knew full well it was a dog.
Not being provocative but out of interest what would you have done? Because I've gone round and round in circles second guessing every option and outcome trying to arrive at the right decision. I feel I've made the right choice which at the end of the day is all that count's. But I'm interested, what would you have done?
Another thing as I've said a real 56 would probably be waisted on me. I'm assuming from what you said that your based in the US, you have to realise that there weren't that many guitars made in the first place. Most of them reside in the States and we really don't have that many here in the UK. So that would mean buying online wich is essentially the first mistake I made.
Not all 50's guitars are great by any stretch. There are plenty of dogs that will still cost an arm and a leg. There's no guarantees in life, live and learn I guess.
Not all 50's guitars are great by any stretch. There are plenty of dogs that will still cost an arm and a leg. There's no guarantees in life, live and learn I guess.