So What Is Your Opinion On The 59 Greeny Coming In 2023

[58fan]

$50K for a replica guitar on 2022 and $110K for a replica GT in 2005. The price differential only inflates how $50K for a Greeny is nuts, even with the 17 year differential. I wouldn't want one at 50K, much less hope to make money on it.

That's why CME has two of those fool things.

By the way when I was at the Atlanta Car Show in 2005 and saw the GT with a sticker of $116K; I thought then what a steal at that price. No one will EVER look at a Greeny and say what a steal at 50K or more. A Greeny is no burst, it's a fake, a replica. No jealousy here for any owner of that guitar at 50K; it's a fools badge of honor.

Now those that had the balls to pony up $116k for a GT are sitting pretty ... and were from DAY ONE.

 

[Wizard1183]

It just sounds like you don't know how to sell exclusive collectibles. If I had bought one at $50k, I'd be selling it for double. Because "go find another". That's the way the market value is determined.

The Ford GT was a mere $110k when it was new in 2005. That's a replica. Your point is moot when it comes to exclusive flagship products that consumers know ahead of time will be limited and special.

It’s a $20k guitar to me. No other braz board reissue was more than that new. So to pay 50k+ is insane.

 

[El Gringo]

Or a vintage guitar lol

That would always be the first choice

 

[ADP]

$50K for a replica guitar on 2022 and $110K for a replica GT in 2005. The price differential only inflates how $50K for a Greeny is nuts, even with the 17 year differential. I wouldn't want one at 50K, much less hope to make money on it.

That's why CME has two of those fool things.

By the way when I was at the Atlanta Car Show in 2005 and saw the GT with a sticker of $116K; I thought then what a steal at that price. No one will EVER look at a Greeny and say what a steal at 50K or more. A Greeny is no burst, it's a fake, a replica. No jealousy here for any owner of that guitar at 50K; it's a fools badge of honor.

Now those that had the balls to pony up $116k for a GT are sitting pretty ... and were from DAY ONE.

I agree with everything presented here. The difference is legends knew how legendary the Ford GT is and what it would become, and it IS legendary.

The new "Greeny" is, indeed, a fools badge of honor. Especially attached to Kirk Hammet's name. But again only time will tell what the next generation will deem as an investment.

In my observation in the last few years, it seems stupid people have as much money as anyone else nowadays. So maybe Gibson is just taking advantage of those collector's they can market to without leaving any money on the table for the used market to eat up.

I can respect it from a business and profit aspect - but it's the fastest way to tarnish a brand's reputation of pride in ownership.

Note* The real collectors I know don't pay that kind of money for any modern guitar.

 

[58fan]

Quite frankly I don't blame Gibson. If they can sell out the run at 50K more power to them. It's not a "poor" musicians guitar anyway; it's a "collectors" guitar. If the "collectors" want to line up like trained seals to buy them, let them. I should know, I used to be one of them. I bought the Duane LP, both Betts issues, the Rossington, the Townsend SG w/ flight case, etc. etc. The most expensive was the Duane at $8K out of the box, one of 55. IMO the time has passed to make any real money from recent collector issues; Gibson makes sure they get the money up front. We all want to make sure we sell high right? Gibson is no different.

To show how things have gotten really crazy, if you covert that 8k for the Duane when I bought it, it only converts to 12 grand in 2023 money. The Duane was Murphy aged, extremely limited, etc. That's why I'm no longer a player; the drastic increase doesn't compute. It is truly now imo a fools game.

To much money floating around.

 

[MotorcityRocker]

I hope Gibson will come out with a more affordable version, possibly a VOS! That would spark my interest to purchase one.

 

[Wizard1183]

I hope Gibson will come out with a more affordable version, possibly a VOS! That would spark my interest to purchase one.

This yr they’re coming out with a non braz version. I’m sure MUrphy lab but possibly light heavy etc. I hear it’ll be around $20k

I’d def have to play one before I’d just buy one on looks. It’ll be exclusive as well I’m sure

 

[Reddart]

This yr they’re coming out with a non braz version. I’m sure MUrphy lab but possibly light heavy etc. I hear it’ll be around $20k

I’d def have to play one before I’d just buy one on looks. It’ll be exclusive as well I’m sure

I think with this one, the package will just include a tour of the Gibson rack at your nearest Guitar Center, accommodations at Motel 6, and a soiled napkin used by Kirk Hammett from the earlier meet and greet dinner.

 

[Pat Boyack]

If you are bitching about the price then you can't afford it. There is a reason Gibson has models at all price points.

 

[Wizard1183]

If you are bitching about the price then you can't afford it. There is a reason Gibson has models at all price

There was no doubt they’d sell them all. But at the price asking? For a reissue? Basically the same guitar as a braz board Tom Murphy ultra aged guitar with differ pickups? A fool and his money.

 

[Pat Boyack]

....... a braz board Tom Murphy ultra aged guitar with differ pickups? A fool and his money.

If that is within your price range......

 

[Wizard1183]

If that is within your price range......

It’s not. I’m not stupid like ones who paid for this…

$50k would’ve bought something vintage. Guitar isn’t worth $50k to me. $20k? Sure. That’s all it was worth. Not a penny more. In 2018 you didn’t pay over $20k for a Tom MUrphy Heavy aged braz board guitar. And those are much rarer than Greeny. The other $30k went to the Gibson executive exclusive meet & greet. So no. I wouldn’t pay $50k+ if I didn’t attend that. The original buyer did…

 

[Jim W]

I see the "KH" on the replica, is it for sure on the real one? Or is this a Gibson thing?

 

[Wizard1183]

I see the "KH" on the replica, is it for sure on the real one? Or is this a Gibson thing?

He carved his initials in the actual Greeny. Why else would they replicate a guitar and input that if it wasn’t real? Lol

 

[58fan]

If you are bitching about the price then you can't afford it.

That makes no sense. People bitch about the price of eggs but I'm sure most can still afford them. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you buy it. Restraint is the reason you amass wealth in most cases; making sagacious choices.

Personally I would be embarrassed to say I ponied up 50K for "an experience" and a replica guitar.

Lastly just because you can burn through cash doesn't mean s--t; see FTX. Plenty of losers with cash to ignite.

 

[El Gringo]

If you are bitching about the price then you can't afford it. There is a reason Gibson has models at all price points.

I have no problem with Gibson's marketing and sales practices as they are a "business" and business are in the business of making money $ . Pure and simple and it is the free market enterprise at work . Plus Gibson has a variety of price points and different lines of products . There is a tendency of people getting a knee jerk reaction to Gibson doing this and I have been guilty of this in the past (True Historic series ) At the end of the day life is short and there are far more pressing needs in life such as health , finances and SECURITY ! These are far more important !

 

[Pat Boyack]

That makes no sense. People bitch about the price of eggs but I'm sure most can still afford them. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you buy it. Restraint is the reason you amass wealth in most cases; making sagacious choices.

Personally I would be embarrassed to say I ponied up 50K for "an experience" and a replica guitar.

Lastly just because you can burn through cash doesn't mean s--t; see FTX. Plenty of losers with cash to ignite.

It makes perfect sense. It makes me laugh when people bitch or make fun of what people buy with their hard earned money.

 

[58fan]

It makes perfect sense. It makes me laugh when people bitch or make fun of what people buy with their hard earned money.

At least you're laughing; not the alternative. I know of no one that bought one of these. Did you, or do you? I bet most of them want to remain anonymous. The reason CME has two of them is possibly because the original purchasers saw the writing on the wall (or just wanted the "experience"). Why sell to a store? Sell while there is still a buzz? ... later you could stand to lose even more?

It seems your engagement here is more proof that these purchasers need an ally. If it was such a great value there would be no need for a defense.

 

[Wizard1183]

At least you're laughing; not the alternative. I know of no one that bought one of these. Did you, or do you? I bet most of them want to remain anonymous. The reason CME has two of them is possibly because the original purchasers saw the writing on the wall (or just wanted the "experience"). Why sell to a store? Sell while there is still a buzz? ... later you could stand to lose even more?

It seems your engagement here is more proof that these purchasers need an ally. If it was such a great value there would be no need for a defense.

Yep. Not one person who bought them is here to display it. Why? Cause they KNOW they’re the sucker born with more money than sense

 

[Pat Boyack]

At least you're laughing; not the alternative. I know of no one that bought one of these. Did you, or do you? I bet most of them want to remain anonymous. The reason CME has two of them is possibly because the original purchasers saw the writing on the wall (or just wanted the "experience"). Why sell to a store? Sell while there is still a buzz? ... later you could stand to lose even more?

It seems your engagement here is more proof that these purchasers need an ally. If it was such a great value there would be no need for a defense.

What is the alternative?

These purchases don't need a fucking ally. They sold them all. Nuff said.