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This place has changed

Gitfiddler

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Yes, the LPF has changed over the years. But what hasn't? Forums like this aren't 'things'. They're people...who share an interest or love for something we all have in common. To me the greatest change has been the way folks discuss Gibson guitars.

In my view it used to be more competitive between owners/fans of Gibson Standard vs Custom Shop, dealer exclusive models, limited run guitars, and all of the variants therein. Yes, some of that still gets talked about. However, now there seems to be more acceptance and a sense of calmness when members discuss their current favorite Gibson or whatever gear. Folks don't seem to get all 'hot and bothered' about owning the latest and greatest Custom Shop model that most closely resembles/copies the original from back in the day. Remember all of the chatter about truss rod condoms and hide glue? :)

I still enjoy hanging around the LPF. Maybe it is because I'VE aged and mellowed as well as many of our members. Most importantly, I still enjoy playing my small harem of Gibsons...(and other brand guitars) while chatting with members who have been here for so long.

Peace!
 

Doc Sausage

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While I could prattle on about other possessions, it's musical gear that I parted with that's given me the greater amount of regret. I'll likely hang onto what I have now and watch the old adage from afar... 'My fear is my wife will sell all my guitars for what I told her I paid for them.'

The struggle is real. Happy replenishing your new stable!
 

MarcB

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While I could prattle on about other possessions, it's musical gear that I parted with that's given me the greater amount of regret. I'll likely hang onto what I have now and watch the old adage from afar... 'My fear is my wife will sell all my guitars for what I told her I paid for them.'

The struggle is real. Happy replenishing your new stable!
I recall being a young musician and two moral lessons that stuck out were.. “never give up” and “never sell your guitars” which I stuck to religiously for decades ..until recently ..and now I know why.
 

Doc Sausage

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I recall being a young musician and two moral lessons that stuck out were.. “never give up” and “never sell your guitars” which I stuck to religiously for decades ..until recently ..and now I know why.
I wouldn’t beat myself up too much. Change is an inevitable part of this life. Whether you brought it on yourself, or life did. It isn't like those guitars on your list don't exist, there's nothing stopping you from finding the new 'love of your life.'

I know that's psychobabble crap but you don't have any choice now, my man, either accept it or embark on the new journey. Tough love, I guess. 😂
 

MarcB

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I wouldn’t beat myself up too much. Change is an inevitable part of this life. Whether you brought it on yourself, or life did. It isn't like those guitars on your list don't exist, there's nothing stopping you from finding the new 'love of your life.'

I know that's psychobabble crap but you don't have any choice now, my man, either accept it or embark on the new journey. Tough love, I guess. 😂
I’m all about the drama.. 🎭

Making moves on other guitars already.. 😉
 

Stevedenver

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Yeah, all things change. I’m still playing music, occasionally electric. Frankly, I’m playing Americana, and I love, not having to schlep so much gear when I gig.

A lot more acoustic. As I ate up every bit of minutia and technical information I could about les Paulsl, it became less critical to me. My gas has switched focus from Les Pauls and Teles to Martin’s.

This fourm has always provided a huge amount of inspiration and information. It’s good too that things change, and new voices are heard. Mike, as usual the 335 looks great on you.
 

bern1

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Yeah, all things change. I’m still playing music, occasionally electric. Frankly, I’m playing Americana, and I love, not having to schlep so much gear when I gig.

A lot more acoustic. As I ate up every bit of minutia and technical information I could about les Paulsl, it became less critical to me. My gas has switched focus from Les Pauls and Teles to Martin’s.

This fourm has always provided a huge amount of inspiration and information. It’s good too that things change, and new voices are heard. Mike, as usual the 335 looks great on you.
Indeed. Another more acoustic oriented guy here these days, becoming obsessed with fingerpicking blues. I do enjoy playing electric once a week, it’s generally at a little lower volume than yesteryear, with a group of guys I’ve played with on and off for the last 20 years.

The gear fetish is also becoming less and less important to me, as guitars and amps have become way better. I remember being on this forum eagerly digesting the details of this or that PAF replica or great tailpiece etc. A decent loss of hearing is making some of that less important. Although I remain an unrepentant guitar and amp snob, I could “make do” with almost anything. I frequently use modern stuff instead of vintage, it’s a little more carefree.

Yes, things change!
 

jb_abides

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Yes, things change!

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AA00475Bassman

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This is still a great place - Although has changed drastically - The Zapper chit show was really a negative turning point - The Forum decision - reason unknown to me to start Facebook paged really was another turning point this subjectively speaking is more like a ugly growth on the chin of the Forum - Thanks we really needed it - I have fielded my dissatisfaction with my CHECK - BOOK . This is still a place I'm at several times a day Mike S. has done a great job keeping this glued together- Thank You Mike .
 

gary buff

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Regarding the vintage stuff, what was once somewhat affordable isn't anymore. I once paid $700 for a '54 all-gold LP and I just saw one online for $60+k. My '59 burst was $5k, don't even go there now....you used to be able to buy PAFs for $100-$150 each. The stuff is so expensive that it may as well not even exist for many people, so now you have different forums for Historics, etc. which still aren't cheap but are within the realm of possibility at least and are tremendous products.

So yes, times and tastes have certainly changed...
 
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Regarding the vintage stuff, what was once somewhat affordable isn't anymore. I once paid $700 for a '54 all-gold LP and I just saw one online for $60+k. My '59 burst was $5k, don't even go there now....you used to be able to buy PAFs for $100-$150 each. The stuff is so expensive that it may as well not even exist for many people, so now you have different forums for Historics, etc. which still aren't cheap but are within the realm of possibility at least and are tremendous products.

So yes, times and tastes have certainly changed...
I get that the old / original stuff is unobtainium now. For a time that seemed to drive interest in replicas of those items. Pickups in particular. I have finally decided to make a point of finally getting my Standard dialed in after 25 years and came looking for pickup information. New builders etc. and was surprised there was not much talk about it. Everything runs its course. I get it. Just going to have to dig a little harder to find what I need. A lot of the bigger boutique builders are clocking in at substantial prices for a set. Fat tele tone, unpotted etc is not that unusual. I should be able to find something.
 
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gary buff

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I get that the old / original stuff is no unobtainium now. For a time that seemed to drive interest in replicas of those items. Pickups in particular. I have finally decided to make a point of finally getting my Standard dialed in after 25 years and came looking for pickup information. New builders etc. and was surprised there was not much talk about it. Everything runs its course. I get it. Just going to have to dig a little harder to find what I need. A lot of the bigger boutique builders are clocking in at substantial prices for a set. Fat tele tone, unpotted etc is not that unusual. I should be able to find something.
To me pickups are really somewhat of a black art--say you're trying to nail the classic PAF tone. You can use all the components originally used (if they're available, I have no idea) and chances are the new pickup will sound ....different. Not better or worse necessarily, but different. Factor in all the other things besides pickups that make a particular guitar sound the way it does and you can be in for a long search, like I was years ago when I filled a drawer with different pickups looking for "that sound" of an old 'burst after I sold mine.

Moral: It's fun to experiment, find the sound that you really like and go with it, if you like the sound your axe is giving you you'll play better too.(y)
 
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To me pickups are really somewhat of a black art--say you're trying to nail the classic PAF tone. You can use all the components originally used (if they're available, I have no idea) and chances are the new pickup will sound ....different. Not better or worse necessarily, but different. Factor in all the other things besides pickups that make a particular guitar sound the way it does and you can be in for a long search, like I was years ago when I filled a drawer with different pickups looking for "that sound" of an old 'burst after I sold mine.

Moral: It's fun to experiment, find the sound that you really like and go with it, if you like the sound your axe is giving you you'll play better too.(y)
Experimenting @ $500+ a pop is not nearly as fun though.... LOL
 

gary buff

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I know, I'm living in the past with regard to prices, most of the SDs and DiMarzios (about all there was back then) were under $100.
But the last time I saw a pair of real PAFs for sale they were 10 grand! :oops: And to think I once sold a nice pair to a dealer for $250 and thought I was doing all right:LOL:
 

mdubya

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I think Mike S. has mentioned that the LPF Facebook page is more active.

For me, I hate Facebook and want nothing to do with being there, so I will ride this ship for as long as it stays afloat.

It is funny, Facebook was one of those social media places boomers seemed to be so against at one point in time.

Now it is the place of boomers.

I like the compartmental aspect of the forum. My aunts and uncles and cousins and high school frenemies are not here and cannot bother me when I just want to read and talk guitars and music.

JMHO.
 

AA00475Bassman

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I think Mike S. has mentioned that the LPF Facebook page is more active.

For me, I hate Facebook and want nothing to do with being there, so I will ride this ship for as long as it stays afloat.

It is funny, Facebook was one of those social media places boomers seemed to be so against at one point in time.

Now it is the place of boomers.

I like the compartmental aspect of the forum. My aunts and uncles and cousins and high school frenemies are not here and cannot bother me when I just want to read and talk guitars and music.

JMHO.
Im sure it is more active & this move to Face book is a game changer for the LPF - really moronic post on FB . Once again thank you Mike for you committed time & resources - I really like the people on the LPF yes Im here several times a day I really give thanks the FB gang is staying of this Forum !
 

goldtop0

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I'd rather be forced to play a Fender than have a Facebook account.
I'm not a fan either, look at it once every so often(months) mainly to see the stuff there re old Marshall amps and speakers etc, the rest I can easily put to one side.
And, I don't carry my phone around with me everywhere either, I'm older and couldn't care less about stuff.
 
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