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Valuable information to consider when evaluating the authenticity of a vintage burst

CDaughtry

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Before the inevitable threat comes to the ownership of the Forum threatening to sue us if we don't take this thread down, please read Sec. 230 of the Communications Decency Act.:jim

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230
 

Patek

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Amusing? In what way please? You never heard of the Small Claims Court (which I have used on numerous occasions..?).

why have you found yourself in court on numerous occasions?
 

Zapper

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Can you point out the chew mark please? my eyes ain't so good. I can see a 1974 pot code, but no chewy?

Like I said, a 'very shallow' chew mark (the discoloured bit with the slight lip above it), which would have been reduced in size if Terry Mueller is right and the cavity was opened up slightly..

92732302_3001896179831755_7756960323852042240_n.jpg


ps. have just noticed the 2 strand earth screening on the pickup cables. Maybe they're original after all..
 
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2002standardmat

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Amusing? In what way please? You never heard of the Small Claims Court (which I have used on numerous occasions..?).

Barking dogs never bite.

I am familiar with the Small Claims Court.

Have you ever heard of Magistrates Court and Crown Court? I’ve used those on numerous occasions too.
 

mipstoo

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Get yourself a legitimate in hand appraisal of someone objective and trustworthy instead of trying to convince us.
I'm surprised the sellers didn't do that and that you were just taking them up on their word.

A lot of things about this story and guitar don't add up, but at the moment we're turning in circles. A childish yes-no game.
Whatever we say, it's like talking to a brick wall.

Either way, like BB would say, the thrill is gone
 

2002standardmat

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Better Call Saul sounds better to me. There’s nothing to see here. No big guns. I’m sure it gets a bit old all this.

Saul is starting to looking like the better option.

Although there are two cats having a fight outside at the moment, I might go and have a look at that first.
 

JJ Blair

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Like I said, a 'very shallow' chew mark (the discoloured bit with the slight lip above it), which would have been reduced in size if Terry Mueller is right and the cavity was opened up slightly..

92732302_3001896179831755_7756960323852042240_n.jpg


ps. have just noticed the 2 strand earth screening on the pickup cables. Maybe they're original after all..

Yeah ... no. That’s not a chew out.

I am still waiting for your explanation about why everything is wrong with your truss rod photo. did you spot all the differences between yours and mine? Do you need me to list them for you?
 

JJ Blair

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Seriously. I’m stuck home for a while with nothing to do. I have plenty of time on my hands to teach you about why this guitar is a fake, if you are willing to actually learn something.
 

grimlyflick

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Yeah ... no. That’s not a chew out.

I am still waiting for your explanation about why everything is wrong with your truss rod photo. did you spot all the differences between yours and mine? Do you need me to list them for you?

Can you anyway, I’m interested even if the OP isn’t.
:salude
 

Zapper

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Yeah ... no. That’s not a chew out.

I am still waiting for your explanation about why everything is wrong with your truss rod photo. did you spot all the differences between yours and mine? Do you need me to list them for you?

I've been comparing your pic to the actual guitar (unlike you) and the only difference I can see is the spacer plate/washer behind the truss rod nut on mine. Big deal...
 

Zapper

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Can you anyway, I’m interested even if the OP isn’t.
:salude

Can't you see them then Grimly..? Come on they're.. er.. obvious..! And vitally important to the debate..... :spabout
 
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Yeah ... no. That’s not a chew out.

I am still waiting for your explanation about why everything is wrong with your truss rod photo. did you spot all the differences between yours and mine? Do you need me to list them for you?

Contemplating a new thread called "Show us your chew"

I've seen the "noticeable chew", the "shallow chew", the "it's Friday afternoon chew"...

:rofl
 

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You have to bite before you chew.. :hee
 

2002standardmat

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Contemplating a new thread called "Show us your chew"

I've seen the "noticeable chew", the "shallow chew", the "it's Friday afternoon chew"...

:rofl


Oh go on, just a little chew, right below my widdler’s peak...
 

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Re: Restoring my 1960 'Burst... need HELP..!! :)

Rev.WillieVK has asked me to post a pic showing the truss rod route on the headstock, under the truss rod cover. So here it is in case it helps...

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just took a look after JJ refered to this. I was willing to say there might be a subtle chew on the original cavity picture but this is totally not right. Literally nothing that matters is right.
 

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Seriously. I’m stuck home for a while with nothing to do. I have plenty of time on my hands to teach you about why this guitar is a fake, if you are willing to actually learn something.


You can probably still find better things to do. :)
 

JJ Blair

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I've been comparing your pic to the actual guitar (unlike you) and the only difference I can see is the spacer plate/washer behind the truss rod nut on mine. Big deal...

Which is exactly why you can't see the rest of everything wrong with this guitar. Stay tuned...
 
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