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Your favourite speaker for 5F1 and Les Paul

luizhmax

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Hi. I'm planning to build a mojotone tweed champ (5F1) amplifier and wonder if you guys could give suggestions on which speaker to install. I mainly play humbuckers. No single coils in the house. I'm considering Weber CVA8 or Weber 8A125.
 

Don

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I went through several speakers with mine and found the Weber CVA8 to just what I wanted. It's "woody" without sounding dull. I don't play a Les Paul often, though. I'm playing blues and classic rock with a Tele, Strat, H-535...

The ceramic speakers that I've tried in it had a slightly brighter, more modern, less woody, tighter sound that was better for cranking up the amp for harder rock.
 

Curious Mike

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I built a Mojotone Champ and to tell the truth, my Humbuckers guitars sound way too dark thru it, My Fenders sound a lot better. YMMV..
 

Don

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I built a Mojotone Champ and to tell the truth, my Humbuckers guitars sound way too dark thru it, My Fenders sound a lot better. YMMV..

Mine did too. I installed the tone control from a 5F2-A- it has a bright cap that's variable. I later took that out and replaced it with a fixed version set where I liked it.
 

luizhmax

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I built a Mojotone Champ and to tell the truth, my Humbuckers guitars sound way too dark thru it, My Fenders sound a lot better. YMMV..

Do you think a brighter speaker like the Weber 8A125T would be a better option to remediate that?
 

bern1

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Humbuckers always sound too thick through a 5F1 to me.

Overdriven Gibson sounds good through a Champ but I’m always afraid I’m going to blow it up. I should probably built a kit version. But I usually run a humbucker guitar through a Marshall.

The Weber speaker all the way for the original style 5F1 sound.

Really, the 5F1 sounds best to me if I’m playing a Fender guitar.
 

Hamerfan

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I use a Jensen C8R, which gives a brite and crunchy sound - good with humbuckers and single coils. Some folks recommend the WGS 8 inch speaker.
 
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Fat Jimmy's eight inch speaker. I went through a ton of speakers before this. Nicely balanced and breaks up in a nice way.
 

Wally

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The best I have heard was a vintage P8RS I ran across and had reconed...big AlNiCo magnet compared to the P8R from the 1950s. Big sound...tighter low end.
 

Curious Mike

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I use a Jensen C8R, which gives a brite and crunchy sound - good with humbuckers and single coils. Some folks recommend the WGS 8 inch speaker.
My MOJO Champ kit came with a Celestion 8-15 watt
I was hoping for a better sound for my Gibsons so I went to a Warehouse G8C. It still seems too clean for a Champ, maybe just need some break-in...
 

GuitarNorton

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Humbuckers always sound too thick through a 5F1 to me.

Overdriven Gibson sounds good through a Champ but I’m always afraid I’m going to blow it up. I should probably built a kit version. But I usually run a humbucker guitar through a Marshall.

The Weber speaker all the way for the original style 5F1 sound.

Really, the 5F1 sounds best to me if I’m playing a Fender guitar.
You have to use the knobs on your guitar
 
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EXPLRGAB

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CLARK AMPLIFICATION USES TONE TUBBY....I BELIEVE THIS IS A SWITCH FROM WHAT HE PREVIOUSLY USED.
 

DrewB

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I built my 5F1 as what I call a Champeluxe. The cabinet is a 5E3 size with a Celestion G12H Anniversary 12". I modded it to bias v1a like a Marshall (~ 820 ohms to ground), which increased gain and gave it some extra bite. It works well with my humbucker guitars. But you're asking about 8" - I can't speak to that.
 

el84ster

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All I can add is that maybe the best sounding vintage teeed champ I ever played/heard was at a guitar show several years back. Had a Weber Signature speaker in it. Real good deal too, wish I’d bought it!
 

Wally

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I recently placed an Eminence 820H in a 1964 Bf Champ. I had more low and lower mids and more volume that the stock speaker. It was closer to what that P8RS I once used in a 5F1….bigger..more meat to the sound.
 

barsinister

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weber signature ceramic 8s--efficient and just enough brightness... I can even gig with it! also easy on the wallet..8a125 is fabulous too..
 

Cranknfrank

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Hi. I'm planning to build a mojotone tweed champ (5F1) amplifier and wonder if you guys could give suggestions on which speaker to install. I mainly play humbuckers. No single coils in the house. I'm considering Weber CVA8 or Weber 8A125.
I like Weber and Eminence speakers in my Fender amps. Both companies do some great replacement speakers.
 
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